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Destination Death
Destination Death

Season 1, Episode 1 · 1 year ago

EP1 Spontaneous Human Combustion

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Welcome to the first episode of Destination Death! Spontaneous Human Combustion are the words of the day. In this episode I go over three supposed cases of spontaneous human combustion. Podcast instagram: @destinationdeathpodcast Intro music by @benny_jets on instagram!

Okay, hello, hello, welcome todestination death. I am Rechel and I have a pretty cool topic for you guysfor episode, one eventually, I'm planning on starting aseries on death on this channel on this podcast whatever- and I was thinking about starting thatseries with my first episode, but I don't want to overwhelm myself rightout the gate, so I just picked a cool topic, so we're going to get into it ina second. I hope you guys really enjoyed my intro music was created bymy friend Andrew. His instagram is at Benny underscore jets and I'm going togo ahead and throw that in the description of this podcast big. Thankyou to him for giving me something that he made for me to use. So I don't haveto use premade stuff. Let's get into the topic of today. The one that I picked is spontaneoushuman combustion. There are a lot of documented cases of this happening. Alot of times it just is chalked up to the person was a drunk or they fellasleep on a cigarette or Xwansy. So this you guys might have heard aboutfrom. Like a card on card gainst, humanity- or there was an episode of South Parkthat was about spontaneous human commession, but the real definitionthat I actually took from wikipedia is that spontaneous human combustion isthe concept of the combustion of a living or recently deceased human body.Without an apparent external source of ignition, I decided to use the definition fromwikipedia because it is well written in a way that's easy to understand. Italso fits the bill pretty well. I tried to find a couple otherdefinitions and it just seemed like they were using a lot of. I don't know big words, so just to make it as easy as possible. I did some research. I was originallygoing to do like six different cases or...

...five different cases or, like my fivefavorite types of spontaneous human combestion, but I ended up going withthree three that I think are pretty good and then just some additionalbackground information. So before we get into it, this wouldn'tbe a good death podcast without a proper disclaimer. So I decided to write up a littledisclaimer, so you guys know I don't typically censor any grotesque information, I'mnot going to like change how I talk on this podcastbecause it may upset people. This podcast is about death, it's about realthings. So if you dislike any of those topics or it makes you uncomfortable, Iwill not be offended if you decide not to listen to me so without any furthergarbage, let's just get to the disclaimer. The information in thispodcast, as well as those that follow, is information readily available on theInternet. That being said, I have done a lot of research. I spendmy own time doing this research, I'm not being paid to do this podcast. I am doing it specifically because Ilike it, and I think it's information that other people should know so. Some information topics and opinionsdispressed expressed from this point on, could be considered explicit, grotesqueand or offpudding. So listen with your own discretion, I'm not a medicaldoctor. Nor do I have specific medical training that is licensed. Yet I havedone extensive research in anatomy, Patho, physiology, neuralogy andhistology, so I do have a little bit of a medical background, but obviously Ihave no licenses so take that as you will, I'm no expert,but I do my best to provide accurate medical information as well as include research from credible sources, so now that those formalities are over,let's begin with the most well known case of spontaneous human combustion,which is Mary Hardy recear. This case has been documented many times it'sbeen covered by many true crime shows covered pretty heavily on youtube. Soif you're interested in seeing like crime photos- or you know indepth investigation information stuffthat, I obviously can't show you on this platform, I would check outyoutube well, this case isn't exactly thecraziest case. I still think it's a pretty good one, so I decided toinclude it first. Mary, Hardy reesear was sixty sevenyears old when she died. This is actually the oldest case that I haveincluded today. So...

...take this information as you will. TheDNA and other forensic techniques warmed as good inone thousand nine hundred and fifty one. So just just bear with me here, but theother two of that I have are much more recent, as as as old as it is. This case hasactually like the most information, so let's just get into it. She died July. Second, one thousandnine hundred and fifty one in snt Petersburg, Florida pansy carpenter was her landlord leandlady at the time, and she arrived at research door with a telegram. Apparently Mary, just like left herdoor unlocked every once in a while. So I guess Miss Carpenter thought likeI'll just like walk in put it on her desk or something because she sheknocked and then she ended up trying the doorknob. Apparently the door. KNOBwas so uncomfortably warm that Pansy decided she was going to call thepolice, so the police arrive. They knocked downthe door they found. Mary's remains sitting in a chair which,in some investigation reports it's described as like a Sofa recliner chair.I know that we all know what that looks like in other reports and also in the photothat I put up on my instagram. The chair kind of looks actually more likeone of those wooden rocking chairs that, like grandma's own so I'll, let you guys take a look at thephoto and see what you think, but if you're interested in looking at myinstagram page for this podcast, it is at destination death podcast. I willtry to upload a photo before I upload in episodes s that you guys have sometime to guess what it is form some opinions, maybe and then, once the episode comes out. Obviouslyit can give some some information or something that I obviously can't showyou on a podcast, so the body was burnt completely, except for her leftfoot. Her left foot was completely unburnt and it was still wearing aslipper. So that is also in the photo that I posted. You can take a look at it if you like,if you don't want to look at a brintlike, unburnt foot, then don't her spine and her skull were also theonly other two items of her body that were recovered, so think about that fora second everything else on this woman's bodywas ashes so to completely burn a human body like ifyou were to do it in the right way in a...

...crematorium, the heat has to be anexcess of three thousand degrees Fahrenheit for three to four hours,threethousand degrees. So think about that, while we go through the rest ofthese, so her spine in her school wererecovered, which I previously say is ha going to go. But the craziest thing wasthat her skull had been shrunken down to the size of a teacup. Theyapparently only recovered certain parts of the school, so there wasn't, therewasn't able to be like a way to reconstruct it, but from knowledge of the size thatbones should be they had fragments and they determined that her skull hadshrunken down so much. So, let's just take a second here. I think we can all kind of agree thathuman human heads are like about the size of a cantelope, so this this says to me this flame was so hot and burned forsuch a period of time that it dehydrated all of the water bone marrowand gases inside her skull enough to shrink it to the size of a Christmasornament. Basically, that is mind blowing like that Ju. Icannot even imagine being an investigator and like thinking that this sixty seven year old woman had theskull of like a baby. That just blows my mind. Also notably shrunken school is noted in many suspected cases ofspontaneous human combussion, but it is not notated in most deaths cause byfire, so I mean were they making it up? Probably not, but you know, I guess we'll, never know the absolute craziest part of thisincident. This is the only reason why I really included this. One is because this just absolutely like, I can't even describe o you guys howmuch this blows my mind my dad's a fire fighter. So I've heard plenty aboutlike high house fires and stuff like that, but this this and another incident that we'regoing to talk about later it just. I don't even know how to how to like. I just don't know so. The only items affected by the flameinside Mary's house were her body and the chair. She was sitting in and acouple of plastic items near the chair that she was sitting in. So so, let'sthink about this. If she's sitting in a chair in the middle of her living room,this means that...

...the rest of her furniture, the herhouse, was carpeted so the rest of her carpet the ceiling, the wood in herhouse, like none of it, was ingolfed and flames, except for her. That is Jut. I can't even imaginewalking into that, like I really just can't, so they could not obviously determine what hermanner of death was, whether it was smoke in holation or you know, beingcompletely burned to death, but at one point they were so unsure ofwhat the cause of death was, that they got the FBI involved. They sent someitems from the home, they sent her slipper, they sent a bunch of photos tothe FBI and they determined that the they listed and determined that thecause of death was accidental death by fire of unknown origin, and that is actually quoted from the investigators report. So that is the story of Mary HardyReeser that one I just can't really explain. Just I don't know it just is so wild to me anyway. Our next one is from December twothousand and ten, it's actually from Ireland, so a little bit of a differentscene. Here, this one we don't have as muchinformation on as well as the second one. Second one here, the third one,I'm sorry, third one's pretty short. Just because you know we don'tobviously have access to the records of other countries. Buthere's what we know, Michael Thirty, was seventy six. He died on the twenty second ofDecember, two thousand and ten at Clar View Park. Bally, Ban. Galway. Thiscase is one of the first deaths that was actually ever listed as aspontaneous combustion on the coroners report, which I guess is of note, because a lot of the other ones wereaccidental death by fire of unknown origin. So I guess this corner was likehip with the spontaneous combussion, which I guess I like Feridy's neighbor, Mr Mannion wasawakened by the sound of his smoke. Alarm Mannian went outside to findheavy smoke coming from FARDY's house. His body was found laying on his back with hishead located near an open, fireplace now the fireplace was not on en policearrived, so it is suspected that the heavy smoke coming from the buildingwas from feridy's body as gross as that sounds. That is what is suspected nowdo they think there was a lit like an...

...open fire on the night before yes, so that will come up a little bit later, like in the case of Mary. The fire wasconfined to the area around the body. So the only areas that were touched byfire were his body, which there was actually no parts unburnt of his bodythat were able to be recovered. His whole body was pretty much destroyed.There were a couple bone fragments they were able to like use to determine thatit was him, but other than that everything waspretty much gone, so there wasn't like shrunken skull or any of that jazz to use to determine spontaneous combustion. There were also no excelerance locatedin the home or around the body. The ceiling above his body was burntand the carpet around his body was burnt, so that so those were the onlyparts of this House that were burnt no plastic was melted. The rest of thecarpet was fine. The rest of his furniture was all fine. There was no like trail from thefireplace to suggest that the fireplace lit him on fire. It doesn't appear that he attempted tolight himself on fire, so the corner and the investigators at thescene determined that the fireplace was not the source of the flame thatignited his body. We'll talk about this a little bitlater because it is highly debated but for some reason unbenounced to us, theydetermined that it could not have possibly been the fireplace. So I'mjust going to go with that, because that is what was written in the report but, like I said, there is somewhat of an explanation which we cantalk about after we get to the third, so the corner ultimately determined thecase fit within the parameters of spontaneous human combussion, like I said, there'RS speculation fromoutside forendsic investigators that the fireplace had been the cause of thefire, Michael also suppered, from type todiabetes and hypertension, but it couldn't have been determined if theheart issue was the cause of his death, because his body was just so badlydegraded. They actually don't believe it was because he was using medicationto control his diabetes and his hypertentions. So we have to assumethat he did not pass away from any sort of heart problem and then subsequentlycatch on fire. So that was Michael last case of spontaneous humancombestion that will go over today is John Norwan. He was also from London,...

...so this one is actually the shortest is.I have the least amount of information about, but it was actually one of thecraziest ones I had read about so I decided to include it. John Noon was seventy. He lived inTottenham London. He died on the seventeenth of September thsand andseventeen. He was walking on the street locatednear his house, where he spontaneously caught on fire. So in broad daylight. This man was justsuddenly on fire on the street, a few passers by decided to help him.They tried to extinguish the fire as best as they could, but he wasultimately airlifted to a local hospital where he died after his familydecided that the removal of life support was better than keeping himalive to suffer. So it was determined that in the fewminutes that he was on fire, that the flames caused damage to his internal organs andburned over sixty percent of his body, no axcelerance were ever found on hisperson or his belongings, and his death was ultimately ruled as accidentaldeath by fire of unknown origin like that of Mary. So we have just gone through threedifferent cases of spontaneous compession. There is one explanation for all three of theseevents that investigators love to use: Coroners love to use, basically, there's no real reason why any humanshould spontaneously catch fire we're not supposed to be flammable. Obviously that can change based on you know, types of medications, you're on ifyou're a smoker. You know if you, if you put yourself insituations that could cause you to catchfire, but the number one writtenexplanation is the called the wick effect and if you thought, the other events inthe podcast that I have just covered were gruesome. I would buckle up alittle bit because this this is a little bit a little bit disgusting. So I warned you the wick effect is what is attributedto almost all cases of spontaneous human combustion. Basically, a simpleexcelerant is lit by some type of rogue flame, a lighter cigarette, etc. In allthe above cases, the wick effect is listed as a potential cause. It's notspecifically listed on any coroners report or anything like that, but youknow in like investigation reports and...

...any type of like follow up. They listit as a potential cause. Simple excelerant in these cases can be.You know, like your hair clothing, a lot of synthetic fabrics are a lotmore flammable than like, say. Cotton would be based like just based off ofthe types of chemicals theyre created with and washed in, to get the certain effectsand whatnot. Basically simple excelerant could beanything around the body that could catch fire really easily and prettyquickly as well. So then, like, let's say your jacket catchesfire that the basic idea around the wikeffect is the heat from the flames will then cause the fat in the human body tokind of melt out of the skin, in which the clothing surrounding thevictim will kind of absorb these melted, fats and Whala. You have a human candlestick, so that kind of explains how a lot ofthese cases could happen. Mary resear was someone that had to usesleeping pills. It's suspected that she was probably using sleeping pills atthe time that she died and that she could have been asleep for the entiretime her body was engulfed in flames. This obviously is probably a lot betterthan being awake for it. My ghoal was found near an open,fireplace, although it was rulled out, is most likely explanation for wherethe rogue flame came from John was a smoker and though, althougha ligter was not located on Ernear his body, a lit cigarette was attributed tohis death. That did not come out until years after the investigation report was finallyfinished, so I'm not sure how you find cigarette on a person that wascompletely burned, but you know I'm not someone in forensics, so with all the speculation, I'm not surethat I like one hundred percent by any of it. It doesn't really explain how nothingin the homes of the deceased were affected by the flames, but I alsoreally don't think that humans can just catch fire without an axcelerant. So I guess we're just kind of left withthat. I want to know what you guys thinkabout it. Tell me, under my instagram photo for thisepisode. You can also DM me with any questions you might have and I can tryto answer those in episode to. I will be hopefully releasing episodeto next Friday, I', like Apple TV pluss,...

...going to be coming out on Fridays. Solet me know if you liked this episode, if you have any weird death relatedtopics, you'd like me to cover I've, got a really long list of ideas. Iguess I wouldn't have started a podcast without a lot of ideas, but I would like to know if there'sanything you would like to be covered anything you want someone to do somemore research on, so I will see you guys next time. Leave me some tips. Leave me some information. Let meknow if you like the episode- And I will talk to you all later by.

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